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honey bunchetta
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Posted - 2009.05.04 12:16:00 -
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A frig that has a available:
600+ dps.
60km+ range.
Cov-ops cloak.
All without rigs or implants.
You are kidding right?.
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honey bunchetta
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Posted - 2009.05.04 12:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Terrakas
Originally by: honey bunchetta
A frig that has a available:
600+ dps.
60km+ range.
Cov-ops cloak.
All without rigs or implants.
You are kidding right?.
Sort of. You're not getting 600+ DPS without some expensive faction stuff fitted on that paper tank. Assuming it would fit, would you put a covops cloak and expensive faction modules on a rookie ship? My guess is no, as it'll pop too quickly. Why would you put it on this then? And that 600+DPS will probably be 100- DPS most of the time. Torps are absolutely terrible against smaller targets. Have fun watching your gangmates fight while you do nothing. Or have fun doing nothing at all without a gang.
Even with the theoretical 600+ DPS, you'd probably do less damage than a good assault frig, because dead bomber = 0 DPS.
You can get around 600dps or even over it without faction mods.
A frig gank gang or even a recon gank gang include many types of ships and fittings for ganking a variety of ships, now they have a frig that can hit for a close range gank hac's DPS out to 60km along with a cov ops cloak.
Even if it gets reduced dps against smaller ships so what?, the ishkur AF with T2 neutrons and 5 x hobgoblin T2 drones only gets a max of 200-300dps with a 1-2km optimal for its guns.
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honey bunchetta
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Posted - 2009.05.04 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: honey bunchetta on 04/05/2009 14:46:54
Originally by: Terrakas
Originally by: honey bunchetta
A frig gank gang or even a recon gank gang include many types of ships and fittings for ganking a variety of ships, now they have a frig that can hit for a close range gank hac's DPS out to 60km along with a cov ops cloak.
You missed me saying it, but an Ishkur has a godly tank compared to a bomber. The Ishkur will actually be able to stay in a fight and do the DPS where the extra DPS might actually matter (somewhat close fight). The bomber will be warping out or dying after the first volley or so, which in both cases = 0 DPS. Everyone knows you're an easier kill than a T1 frigate.
The only down side for the bomber is that it does poor dmg against other frigs,.... while having a cov-ops cloak and working at ranges that makes it immune to most drones and every short range fit in the game apart from BS pulse?.....
Why would it need a tank when most ships cannot even hit it?.
The entire concept of bombers needs redoing as far as im concerned as CCP addedt another class of frig without realising that they had run out of roles for them and now they are stuck with trying to find one for it.
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honey bunchetta
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Posted - 2009.05.04 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: honey bunchetta
The only down side for the bomber is that it does poor dmg against other frigs,.... while having a cov-ops cloak and working at ranges that makes it immune to most drones and every short range fit in the game apart from BS pulse?.....
Pulses are 45km so unless it's a pulse apoc it's no problem.
Ok so it works at a range that its immune to all non-TC boosted short range BS apart from one and outside most ships drone control range.
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Bombers used to be "anti-frigate" but there was already many anti-frigate ships so CCP finally gave bombers a useful role, anti-bs. Works fine against cruisers and battlecruisers too if you have target painters. 
Working at the range they do with the available DPS they have vs cruisers and larger is way OP. When you add they they can cloak/uncloak every 5 secs and have a ROF of 9 secs they are unlockable by a BS and proly most BC ect as well.
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